Post by userPost by ElectroPigIf you wish to support SYSOPs, you're welcome to continue reading
and responding in this newsgroup. If not, you are free to
unsubscribe and find things better suited to your tastes. Noone is
demanding or otherwise requiring your continued presence.
I spelled the word properly for a reason. I am not some punk 'elite'
kid. I am entitled to my opinion and I can post it here all I like.
This is an unmoderated alt group, I do not need your permission to
post here. Loose your power trip and your combative nature.
LOL! Nice one, but..
Good luck, "user." He's lord over CNet and the source code now. Get
yourself a bucket of popcorn and watch the show. :)
By the way, I noticed Knight talking about making something meaningless into
an issue. Wow, talk about being a hypocrit! The perfect segue for this:
As promised previously (have your popcorn handy now, before you start
reading! LOL).. here's some relevant snippets of an old IRC log that I
finally found (and Knight tried to deny it in this newsgroup previously). It
took me this long to find it but I had to find it since he made me look like
a liar by denying it. Everyone knows it really happened and now here's the
proof. I still, to this day, converse with a few of the people present in
the channel back then.
"Eutopian" is Todd, I am "HMetal" and the others are CNet sysops, many of
them regulars who helped me find and fix CNet bugs but have moved on to
greener pastures..
FYI: For legal reasons, I must state the following just to be safe: This
log is from a *public* IRC channel and I was not under any form of NDA as a
ZMS partner. I post it as factual account of the events that took place.
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Eutopian> Dotoran is suspended from updates for 120 days, or until his
checkhas ben cashed. THIS IS NOT A REQUEST.
HMetal> What the f--- is that about???
StarGaze> ??? What was that?
HMetal> Tell Dave (Dotoran) to send me email explaining whatever is going
on, if you see him..
StarGaze> I'll pass that along to Dave if I see him
HMetal> SG: Thanks. I left him a message on TBot but if he asks.. :)
StarGaze> I'll leave a note on his bbs, he'll get it faster that way.
HMetal> SG: Thanks.
HMetal> I haven't read the mailing list in a few days.. Did I miss an
argument between Dave and Todd or something??
HMetal> (just getting mail now but the first item is a 10 Meg file..)
Cryto> Hello!
HMetal> Hey Cryt..
HMetal> anyone talked to Dotoran at all, that would know what's up with he
and Todd? I just rang Todd's and he's not answering the phone - which is
funny considering he was in IRC only moments ago..
StarGaze> I talked to Dotoran about 3 days ago or so, but nothing was
mentioned about any problems with him and Todd.
HMetal> Trolan: Talk to Dot today at all?
Trolan> HM: not today no..
HMetal> Trolan: From Todd, about 10-15 minutes ago --> *Eutopian*: Dotoran
is suspended from updates for 120 days, or until his checkhas ben cashed.
THIS IS NOT A REQUEST.
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Eutopian> EuPISSED
Eutopian> He's done for 120 days. PERIOD. He wants to tell the world how I
have no say in CNet, then FUCK HIM. There's proof.
HMetal> That's not good enough. Not good enough by a long shot.
Eutopian> You got anything to say other than that, then READ YOUR MAIL.
HMetal> No.. Explain.
Eutopian> I will NOT be fucked over in publuc again. If you SUPPORT those
who do, you're done just as quickly. PERIOD. I've fucking well had ENOUGH.
«Quit» Eutopian (***@windsor38.netrover.com) has signed off (Read error
to Eutopian[windsor38.netrover.com]: EOF from client).
lebon> oh wait
lebon> I know what he's talking about
lebon> he's pissed because Dot said Ray is the coder and not Todd...
HMetal> lebon: That's the truth.
lebon> no reason for him to get pissed
lebon> HMetal: I know!
HMetal> lebon: That's the truth. Todd coded/codes nothing.
StarGaze> Everyone knows that Ray is the coder and one of the best i'v ever
had the pleasure to know.
lebon> HMetal: you don't have to tell me that.. I know that :)
Trolan> HM: and if he wants to go against all documented rights to 4.x
sysops.... he'll get hosed even worse. And more publically
Epyx> Todd seems to like to cry alot of things. He needs to take a chill
pill.
Cryto> WHat has Todd threatened to do?
lebon> ok, this is fucked
lebon> hell, Todd has said it himself a few times that he leaves the coding
to you
HMetal> If he pops in again, tell him I'll be right back.. Gotta go pick up
the wife.
HMetal> All: brb.. 10 minutes or so..
Trolan> HM: =)
StarGaze> ;)
lebon> :)
lebon> geez, is Todd PMSing or what?
Cryto> So what is Todd mad about? I'm not on the ML anymore, so...
lebon> he's mad 'cause Dot said that Ray was in charge of porting issues
since he is the coder and not Todd
lebon> shit
lebon> I just read Todd's mail to the list... talk about overreacting
Cryto> Trolan: Ok. I wanna read it to see exactly whats going on.. Was
Todd threatening all C-Net 4.x sysops, or what?
Trolan> HM: what is todd smoking now, and when will he pass it on?
lebon> no shit
lebon> it doesn't look good
Trolan> HM: Todd cannot lock him out for that email definately.. not a
breach of license agreement, nor a slur against the business
Cryto> HMetal: Yeah.. Todd can't shut him out just because Dot said
something that Todd didn't like..
lebon> Todd is shooting C-Net in the foot with shit like that
Trolan> lebon: no, I think he's just shooting himself in the foot.
Trolan> he's going to hit Cnet with the scatter.. but..
Cryto> HMetal: Todd's E-Mail addy please? :)
HMetal> I'm back
HMetal> ***@resurrection.com
Trolan> HM: he seems to have a problem keeping his business perspective
froma personal perspective.. (ack.. there's that P-word.. ;)
Cryto> HMetal: OK.
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So, you see.. As much as Knight likes to pretend certain events didn't
happen and that I told people things to make them hate him so they would
like me, I didn't desire nor need to say a word. These people formed their
own opinions based on Todd's words and actions.
Oh, by the way.. This will probably be one of my last communications to
this list until I make an announcement later this or next week about my
potential future relationship with and for CNet/X.
Enjoy and, to fittingly quote Jerry Springer, "be good to each other." :)
Ray